tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post2742718586102502287..comments2024-03-27T05:04:39.476-07:00Comments on Museum 2.0: The Creation Museum: Dangerous StorytellingNina Simonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11723930679606298550noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post-82654072581231540692008-06-06T06:10:00.000-07:002008-06-06T06:10:00.000-07:00A comment from the faith-based perspective:This is...A comment from the faith-based perspective:<BR/><BR/>This is the part that always drives unbelievers crazy. Faith.<BR/><BR/>Faith can't be observed or quantified. (drives scientists, and even the man on the street, nuts!)<BR/><BR/>And here's the tough part. Faith is a gift. Not everyone has it. If you don't have faith, you can't just go out and get it somewhere. You can't will yourself to believe. "The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing".<BR/><BR/>A couple well-known phrases from the lips of Jesus: "Let the man who has eyes see", and "let those with ears hear".<BR/><BR/>The meaning is, "Let the man who has the faith I gave him understand."<BR/><BR/>That faith trumps all the "facts" science insists upon. And here's why. Science absolutely DEMANDS a naturalistic starting point with no God, nothing supernatural and no miracles. But everything about God and His Creation, and the way He comes to those He choses to be His children, is miraculous!<BR/><BR/>I remember my pre-faith days. All the science made sense. Then something miraculous happened, and my entire perspactive changed. I'm not saying Ken Hamm has it all ironed out, but I certianly understand his point of view.<BR/><BR/>Something miraculous did happen in the beginning. The rules that operate now were just getting set up then. You can't expect a miracle to conform to natural law.<BR/><BR/>More importantly, God gave us an account of what happened back then. One of the most helpful definitions of faith is this: "Faith is believing that what God has said is so." <BR/><BR/>The man without faith doesn't believe God about almost anything. Doesn't believe God exists, doesn't believe in heaven or hell, miracles, demons, spiratual warfare, sin, etc, etc, etc.<BR/><BR/>The man without faith accepts the scientific explanation because he accepts the premises and assumptions of science. Matter and energy are all there is, ever was and ever will be...<BR/><BR/>My advice? Challenge those assumptions.<BR/><BR/>(sorry about being posting as "anonymous" here. I stumbled on this blog and don't have an account. My name is David. I will try to remember to check back.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post-72627617885331087182007-05-31T07:49:00.000-07:002007-05-31T07:49:00.000-07:00Hi Nina. Wonderful post, you make a compelling poi...Hi Nina. Wonderful post, you make a compelling point, and I agree that passion in scientific writing and communication would go a long way toward steering more people to at least listen to the other side of the issue. I think that it is a sad state of affairs that things have progressed to such a disastrous point that we will have to appeal to the heart to make a rational point, though. I wrote a lengthier response with my thoughts on the matter on our <A HREF="http://explainers.wordpress.com/2007/05/24/let-the-chameleons-be/" REL="nofollow">explainers' blog post</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post-63937002044488270642007-05-29T08:20:00.000-07:002007-05-29T08:20:00.000-07:00Paul,Lastly:The Creation Museum has also gathered ...Paul,<BR/><BR/>Lastly:<BR/>The Creation Museum has also gathered an "unholy trinity of storytelling" in lies, attacks, and exclusivity.<BR/><BR/>I can't wait for my visit over the 4th of July weekend. Nina, I'll take pictures.<BR/><BR/>NAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post-87770859754170378892007-05-29T08:17:00.000-07:002007-05-29T08:17:00.000-07:00Paul,I'd think that the actual exhibits within the...Paul,<BR/><BR/>I'd think that the actual exhibits within the exhibition tell more of the story/message than the marketing that has merely gotten patrons through the turnstiles, no? Doesn't the exhibition come before the "marketing package?" Isn't the exhibit design team (which could include Dev or Mktg) the creator of the story/message? Nina, what came first: Operation Spy or Operation Spy's advertising?<BR/><BR/>Harumph! I *wish* Marketign and Development had more input in the design process -- maybe you would see more story/fun in science center exhibitions.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Frankie Roberto,<BR/>Agree. Learning the story of the process is FASCINATING. Two recent favorite books for me have been <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/s/002-6763824-7891227?ie=UTF8&tag=mozilla-20&index=blended&link%5Fcode=qs&field-keywords=jonathan%20weiner&sourceid=Mozilla-search" REL="nofollow">Jonathan Weiner's "Time, Love, Memory" and "The Beak of the Finch."</A> Scientists at work, told through some of the most elegant science prose available.<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/>NAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post-5638039936386547372007-05-29T06:55:00.000-07:002007-05-29T06:55:00.000-07:00Odd Tangent:WiiFor some reason this hubbub about t...Odd Tangent:Wii<BR/><BR/>For some reason this hubbub about the (Judeo-Christian) Creation Museum makes me think about the Wii gaming system.<BR/><BR/>Nintendo is reaching a wider range of players and non-traditional demographics (seniors, moms, families playing together) than normal because the<BR/>Wii games are intuitive and fun --- eventhough the other gaming consoles have "better" graphics and more complex games.<BR/><BR/>Even some game designers/companies prefer the Wii --- "Developers also like the Wii because it frees them to focus less on making games look visually beautiful and more on just making them fun to play." (quote from the Seattle Times)<BR/><BR/>It all seems to boil down to the story again. If a game is really fun, players seem to be less concerned with graphics, etc. If your museum is really intriguing (like the City Museum, in St. Louis, say) then visitors don't seem as concerned <BR/>with the lack of fancy graphics and exhibit furniture.POW! (Paul Orselli Workshop, Inc.)https://www.blogger.com/profile/05111591384018210698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post-28268759474368452692007-05-27T14:29:00.000-07:002007-05-27T14:29:00.000-07:00Hi Nina,The Creation Museum has gathered the "holy...Hi Nina,<BR/><BR/>The Creation Museum has gathered the "holy trinity" (sorry!) of storytelling in passion, people, and purpose.<BR/><BR/>Each aspect of their "three ps" is clear and unapologetic. Director Ham has a missionary zeal in getting his simple message across ("everything in the Bible is literally true AND science supports it.)<BR/><BR/>By contrast, who, most often, delivers the message of science museums? Marketing and Development departments by and large. By the time the "marketing package" is developed for an exhibition much of the original purpose and passion are wrung dry.<BR/><BR/>Coincidentally, one of the most memorable aspects of both storytelling and museum visits is human interaction. Perhaps we in the "real" museum world might look again at where we our investing our resources and passions in trying to bring stories to our museum visitors.POW! (Paul Orselli Workshop, Inc.)https://www.blogger.com/profile/05111591384018210698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post-4489986561020459532007-05-27T10:29:00.000-07:002007-05-27T10:29:00.000-07:00A thought-provoking post!I've posted an entry in r...A thought-provoking post!<BR/><BR/>I've posted an entry in response over on my blog at <A HREF="http://www.frankieroberto.com/weblog/765.xhtml" REL="nofollow">www.frankieroberto.com/weblog/765.xhtml</A>Frankie Robertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02654911960981803488noreply@blogger.com