tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post6841411183678386189..comments2024-03-27T05:04:39.476-07:00Comments on Museum 2.0: Inclusion AND 2.0 AND Elaine GurianNina Simonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11723930679606298550noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post-55969457878066638082007-04-10T10:34:00.000-07:002007-04-10T10:34:00.000-07:00Chris and David,The juxtaposition between your com...Chris and David,<BR/><BR/>The juxtaposition between your comments is really interesting. The "rewards of functionality" are only available to those who don't feel a "barrier to entry." Both of these are valid points--and I think we need to design both for those who cheer for David and who feel Chris' wariness. I know that I'm both of those people at different times.<BR/><BR/>And on a separate note, yay for you, Chris. At poetry open mics, "virgins" are announced and get extra applause to support their entrance into a potentially scary situation. <BR/><BR/>I wonder about how to foster an environment that is most conducive to comments. I suspect that more people "call in" to talk to the host than to talk to each other. Talking to the broadcaster can be intimidating. How can comments be a forum for substantive discussion among users? My favorite web example of this working well is Edward Tufte's <A HREF="http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a?topic_id=1" REL="nofollow"> moderated forum on information design.</A> People have quality contributions and Tufte serves as a benevolent overseer, not just the teacher.Nina Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723930679606298550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post-13297864743788536392007-04-09T21:04:00.000-07:002007-04-09T21:04:00.000-07:00Nina,There are two connections that strike me rega...Nina,<BR/>There are two connections that strike me regarding inclusion and Web 2.0. First, Elaine Gurian has in the past written about museums not charging admission in order to have a better chance of achieving the railway station type of visitorship. Web 2.0 is, in most repects, a free way of extending your museum visit and extending your meaning-making experience (thus cost-averaging down the admission you may have paid!) I think both ideas share that sense of democratization. I'm sure you've had to struggle with that in a city with so many other museums that are free.<BR/><BR/>Second, I think both museums and Web 2.0 can be imposing. While brick & mortars have to deal with exhibitry, architecture, interior design, signage, cost, etc., I feel Web 2.0 sometimes assumes that there are no barriers to inclusion. But, as a former radio producer I kind of felt like starting this entry with, "Hi Nina. Long time listener first time caller." I've been reading a variety of blogs for a while now and although I've had opinions and wanted to chime in, it was hard for me to make this first post. For whatever reason, I was intimidated. As wildly popular as caller-driven talk radio has been over the last 20 years (which in some ways is a predecessor to Web 2.0), typically less than 5% of the listeners ever talk on air and usually less than 10% ever even attempt to call in. So, in some ways, I think museums and Web 2.0 both have to look at what their potential barriers to entry might be.<BR/><BR/>There. I did it.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12163851537369909552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37032121.post-88512647580440052652007-04-09T11:07:00.000-07:002007-04-09T11:07:00.000-07:00Nina,This is a little tangential, but I think rele...Nina,<BR/><BR/>This is a little tangential, but I think relevant, to your discussion of inclusion and Web 2.0.<BR/><BR/>I noticed that you describe folks as "users." It's an interesting choice of words since I tend to think of Web 2.0 as enabling folks to be "creators" and "constituents." The language is important because Web 2.0 is supposed to facilitate a different kind of "inclusion" -- one in which people join communities and exercise ownership (even leadership) in the community.<BR/><BR/>Different museums may foster communities with different ratios of inclusion:functionality. My guess, however, is that if the rewards of "functionality" are great enough, then you will not have to worry about inclusion.David Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04781679887018899941noreply@blogger.com